(GROUP 1) The Discussion Results of "Conversation in Spain - Learning English Video (A film by Daniel Emmerson presented by EnglishClub.com)"
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Hi guys, we're group 1 here. In this post we're gonna present you our discussion result about "Conversation in Spain - Learning English Video (A film by Daniel Emmerson presented by EnglishClub.com)." Feel free to give us advice or feedback 😊
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2. Nurliana Susti_A1B021002
3. Agisti Carissa sulistia_A1B021014
4. Mia Apriani_A1B021017
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6. Fega Candra _A1B021022
7. Mohammad Ananta Nugraha Yunus_A1B021024
8. Tyara Bunga Desilia_A1B021036
9. Dika Capriati_A1B021037
10. Aisah Alzahra_A1B021038
Task 26-05-2022:
A. Quiz
1. What type of job did the director's father do in Spain before opening his school?
a. He taught English in private lessons.
b. He was a fashion designer.
c. He was a restaurant chef.
d. He lectured at the university.
Answer: D.
2. What does the school director say happened "slowly but surely"?
a. Men began taking women more seriously.
b. Women began taking classes at the English school.
c. Women began teaching men English.
d. Spanish schools began accepting female teachers.
Answer: B.
3. What type of city is Granada?
a. An Italian city.
b. A city mainly of Westerners.
c. A wealthy city.
d. A tourist city.
Answer: D.
4. According to the school director, how has English teaching changed in Granada?
a. The hours are much longer.
b. The pay is much higher.
c. It has become more professional.
d. It has become less grammar oriented.
Answer: C.
5. What happened in the 80s in Italy?
a. Many Spanish people began studying there.
b. English businessmen began travelling there.
c. Women began caring more about English.
d. Primary school students began learning English.
Answer: D.
6. What does Giulio say about his middle school English teacher?
a. He had poor pronunciation.
b. He didn't believe in textbooks.
c. He was a native English teacher.
d. He provided a strong grammar basis.
Answer: D.
7. What reminder does Giulio offer to other English learners?
a. People will not judge or laugh at your English level if you try.
b. If you don't feel like studying, don't do it.
c. Go to America to get a job.
d. Learn to listen to English first.
Answer: A.
8. What does Giulio say about mistakes?
a. They are rarely noticeable.
b. Even native speakers make them.
c. They help you to improve.
d. They remind others you are human.
Answer: C.
9. What does Beatriz say Spanish people do when they speak English?
a. They forget about the importance of pronunciation.
b. They look down at the ground.
c. They translate grammar from their own language.
d. They think about the structure of the sentence.
Answer: D.
10. At what age are students required to start learning English in Spain?
a. 5.
b. 6.
c. 10.
d. 16.
Answer: B.
B. Worksheet
2. Discuss in the Group Blog Class Worksheet, write/type the group's answers, and post them on the blog. A copy of the answer is sent to Sir Azwandi's E-mail.
Activity 1
How much do you know about Spain? Test yourself with this true or false' quiz!
1. Spain is the largest country in Western Europe. (False)
2. Barcelona is the capital city of Spain. (False)
3. The population of Spain is 46 million. (True)
4. Spain borders Portugal and France. (True)
5. Spain has been a member of the European Union since 1986. (True)
Activity 2
Now watch the first part of the film: Conversation 1. Circle the person who talks about the points below.
1. A teacher who speaks English very well. (Christina)
2. Far-sighted parents know their children need English. (Jonathan)
3. Granada is a tourist city. (Jonathan)
4. Learning very, very much at the academy. (Laura)
5. Needing English in the future for work. (Sara)
6. Preparing to take an exam in English. (Nuria)
7. The job pages in the newspapers. (Jonathan)
8. The key to speaking English fluently is to think in English. (Nuria)
9. The school’s location in the centre of town. (Jonathan)
Activity 3
Now watch the first part again. Which points on the list below does the School Director mention? Tick the points you hear. (Be careful: there are two points he does not mention!)
1. My father started this school. (true)
2. There were no English schools in Granada at that time. (true)
3. It was fashionable for young women to study English. (true)
4. Universities were closed to women until the late 40s/early 50s. (false)
5. English is a requirement for most jobs these days. (true)
6. We organise study courses in the UK for our students. (true)
7. We only employ native-speaking teachers. (false)
8. There are a lot of hotels in Granada. (true)
9. Professionals such as lawyers need English. (true)
10. There are few job opportunities in Granada (true)
Activity 4
1. Guilio is in Madrid to attend a "conference'.
2. He started learning English at "Primary School".
3. His English teacher in middle school "was" very good.
4. He went to the US for "one year".
5. He is "not" shy person.
6. He says people "are not there to" judge you and make fun of you when you speak English.
7. He says "making mistakes is a way" to improve and a starting point to prove your English.
Activity 5
In the next part of the film you are going to watch an interview with
a Spanish English teacher. Before you watch, think of three difficulties
students might have when they learn English in Spain. Then watch the
film and see if your predictions were correct.
1.................................................. 2..................................................... 3...................................................
Answer:
1. Difficulty memorizing English vocabulary.
2. Difficulty mastering English grammar.
3. Difficulty in English pronunciation.
The reason is, after i was watching the video part of the interview with the resource person Beatriz Huelamo, an English teacher in Spain, my only correct prediction was "difficulty in pronouncing English." Students who take English classes in Spain only focus on grammar material, so they rarely practice pronunciation. When we speak English, we don't need to apply all the details of grammar to sentences because it makes it too standard. If we look at the reality in western countries, native speakers eliminate some grammar rules to make sentences easy to understand, and conversations become more intimate.
Activity 6
Now watch Conversation 3 again and put Beatriz’s comments in the list below into the correct order.
A. It’s important for someone to ‘push’ you to talk in English.
B. Learning pronunciation from teachers who have bad pronunciation is a problem.
C. Lessons in school focus on grammar exercises more than talking.
D. People are afraid of making mistakes when speaking to foreigners.
E. Private English lessons support what students learn at school.
F. Students don’t get enough speaking practice in class at school.
G. When you study a language you have to like it.
H. You have to travel.
Answer:
Correct order: F - D - C - B - H - A - E - G.
Activity 7
Discuss the following questions.
1. In what ways are the difficulties experienced by students in Spain similar to those in your country?
2. The School Director says that English is a requirement for practically any job in Spain. Is this true in your country? If so, how long has this been the case?
3. Do you agree with Nuria when she says that the key to fluency is thinking in English? If so, what can students do to help themselves develop the habit of thinking in English?
4. To what extent do you agree with Giulio when he says that making mistakes is a way to improve your English? How do you feel if you make mistakes when you are speaking English?
5. Do you agree with Beatriz when she says that you have to ‘jump’ (get over) the embarrassment you feel when you are speaking English? If so, what is the best way to do this?
6. The film consisted of 3 conversations (the director, the learner, the teacher). Why do you think the film makers interviewed people in these roles?
7. What other questions do you think the film should have asked?
8. What did you find most interesting or surprising about the video?
Answer:
1. I think the difficulites of what Giulio,Beatriz and Nuria said are related to our country. Giulio said there is so many people still feel afraid to talk in English because the pronounciation, Indonesian and Spanish letters are pronounced differently, so it's not easy for students from both countries to pronounce the same English sentences as native speakers.This is due to the pronunciation of the mother tongue that has been instilled in each student since childhood, so it isn't easy to switch to the pronunciation of the language he has just learned. And nuria said that many people are still don’t thinking in English words.
2. Yes, In my opinion, that is true. English is the main requirement for applying for various jobs such as Journalism. They must have both passive and active English skills. When journalists are assigned to cover news and interview sources from abroad, the clarity and fluency in pronouncing the sentences must be conveyed well to the viewers. Then, Human Resource Development (HRD) works for a company expanding its business overseas. The English language skills of HRD will be useful for recruiting the best people for certain positions. For how long has English been used as a job requirement. It has been going on for a dozen years because it was influenced by the rapid development of technology in 2000 and above. And actually in Indonesia English already rooted within the culture. We have so many culture destination so it's invited the tourist for come. But in the case English for learning I think its 20 or 30 years ago, that job must be required English ability.
3. Students can help themselves to develop thinking in English with many things. You can start it from the basic such as listening a song and analyze the lyrics, word training could be optional if you want to adjusting your vocabulary and sentences. Students should be having English friends from the other country maybe trading contact with someone in online then ask them personally, unconsciously its train you to thinking in English. Indeed, when we think of English for the first time, we often find sentence structures that are still chaotic so that the other person hears it strangely, but we can still understand the essence of the sentence. And still there are two ways to help students develop thinking habits in English, including labeling all objects in the rooms of the house and describing what activities we do in one day, then writing them in sequential and related paragraphs. Both ways must be done regularly and seriously to have the habit of thinking in English.
4. I completely agree with Giulio because, from mistakes, we know what needs to be evaluated and improved in our English skills. Everyone does not escape from mistakes, including learning something new, like a baby learning to walk for the first time will feel the fall. However, he then got up again and practiced good and correct walking until it was smooth. From the philosophy of a baby learning to walk, like when we first learn English, we tend to find more mistakes than the right ones. However, over time, we know mistakes must be corrected because it is our way to improve our English skills in the future. I feel happy if there are mistakes in speaking, pronunciation, intonation, and sentence structure. So, I immediately opened the Oxford dictionary on my smartphone, looked for the right word to put in the sentence, then repeated the speech into the correct sentence.
5. Yes, I do. We must dare to speak English, even though many people are shy when speaking in reality. Those like that usually think they have poor English skills, so they are afraid to try it. To know whether we are right or wrong, we must speak without doubts. If we continue to feel embarrassed and choose to remain silent, we never know to what extent the level of English language skills we have learned from theory. There is no need to be ashamed to do something as long as it is positive, does not harm others, and does not violate the law. It's all for our good to hone our English skills. The first time making mistakes is natural and normal for humans, but what makes it unnatural is when we fall into the same mistakes and are comfortable settling on the abyss of mistakes. One way to overcome shyness is to think that the other person is more worried about themselves. They generally understand when we learn to speak a new language and make mistakes.
6. From my perspective, interviews were conducted with the director, learner, and teacher as the resource person, regardless of the reason for their work which focuses on the "talking" aspect. Another reason why the interview consisted of three interviewees because they were both in the educational field, so the insight into conversational English in Spanish was easily understood by students who were the main targets of making this film.
7. From the video, several questions from me should be included in the film as follows:
1) Do students in Spain regularly memorize English vocabulary every day?
3) Are the educational facilities in Spain increasing the interest of English-speaking students sufficient or not?
2) How is the English accent used in Spanish? Is it more of an American accent or a British accent?
8. What surprised me was that Italians, similar to Spain, are not very fluent in English. Before I watched this video, I thought that Spain and Italy were both English-speaking countries because of their proximity to a country with many native English speakers, namely England.
Activity 8
Imagine you are making a film like ‘Conversations in Spain.' Interview your partner using the questions below.
1. Is learning English compulsory in schools in your country?
2. How important is English for job-seekers in your country?
3. What aspects of learning English are difficult for students in your country?
4. How does the culture or background of people in your country affect their language learning?
5. What tips and advice do you have for other learners of English?
Answer:
Tyara : Alright, Mike. I have some questions for you to answer, are you willing to?
Mike : Yeah, sure thing! Let's go, Tyara.
Tyara : Okay, so... Is learning English compulsory in schools in your country?
Mike : Well, yes. In my country, even in elementary school, English subject is important to be learnt by our students since they are in Elementary School that will help them in learning English easier on the next school levels. Even though, it's our mother tongue and we use it in our daily life.
Tyara : Oh, That's great! Okay, so next question is how important is English for job-seekers in your country, Mike?
Mike : Of course, it's extremely important. Not just in my own country but for others, perhaps you can take many varieties of job you favor because of it. Also, it's showing you've learned it, that will show employers that you're dedicated and have a work, experienced, and study ethic. It also shows you are a dedicated and hard-working person! Next question, please.
Tyara : I agree with ya, it brings many benefits. So, how does the culture or background of people in your country affect their language learning? What do ya think, Mike?
Mike : Hm, I think for people from different cultures may not have in common the cultural experiences needed to comprehend many texts. The same holds true for language. Language is imbedded in culture, and culture influences how people think and use language, ya know?
Tyara : Yeah, I see. So, the last question, Michael. You as native speaker, do you have any tips and advice for other learners of English?
Mike : Yeah, I have some. I've met some foreigners that were afraid to speak because of their grammar. I just wanna say that we don't really care about it and we won't play around, we're more tolerate and understand than it looks. Have fun while learning, and you just have to practice, practice, and practice everyday long. Also, I think it's gonna be cracking for you to visit English-speaking country!
Tyara : Superb! I think that's all the questions. Thanks, for our little session, Mike.
Mike : My pleasure, Tyara. I have a really good time with ya!
3. a. What are the challenges for each speaker in learning English in their respective places, at each level of their education;
Answer:
In my opinion, out of every speaker I have met, the most difficult challenge is overcoming fear, and the most frequently encountered are making the audience enthusiastic and interested in the topic we are discussing, making the audience remember what we said, and getting the audience to do something. The things we say.
3. b. How do they improve their English competence?;
Answer:
Based on the film, here are some ways they can improve their English competence:
1. Nuria
- Think in English to speak English fluently.
2. Laura
- She is learning English very much In school.
3. Giulio Gola
- Just be relaxed, even if there are mistakes.
- Learning from mistakes because mistakes are the starting point to improvement.
4. Beatriz Huelamo
- Learning English in more extra classes.
- Go on trips abroad to practice speaking English with native speakers.
- Jump the embarrassment.
- Often have English conversations.
- Learn to like English.
3. c. Are there similarities and differences in learning English in Spain and Indonesia? Anything? Explain;
Answer:
In my view, there are similarities and differences in learning English in Spain and in Indonesia. It's the same in Spain, in Indonesia, people who learn English are afraid of making mistakes when they want to speak. However, I think there is a slight difference in conditions. In Indonesia, we tend not to be afraid to talk to strangers, unless we are in a tourist city.
3. d. Are there similarities and differences in motivation to learn English? Anything?
Answer:
First, talk about the problem of similarities in learning, namely by using electronic media or books. They can get motivation from the sophisticated media in this modern era. Motivation also comes from parents and those closest to them, and if someone really wants to be able to speak English, they can motivate themselves to be serious about reaching it.
Then for the difference, yes, in this modern world, there are many media available. But not everyone is able to have the desired facilities. This is what differentiates motivation from one person to another. Affluent people will easily access all media, but most people like that will be lazy in the learning process later because they are neglected by the technology they have. On the other hand, an ordinary person will be serious in learning because he only takes what he can take, and there are not many things that make him neglect.
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